Canada's sex offender legislation: 'tough on crime', short on smarts!

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Response from the Senate

Posted on September 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM

To    "[email protected]"

date    Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:13 PM

subject    Re: A request for your review and response.

mailed-by    sen.parl.gc.ca

   

  

Hi

 

I reed all your email. I don't agree with you at all. First I don t believe the stats about sex offenders recidivism. The real stats are talking nearly 25% of recidivism like the criminal who killed my daughter. Secondly, those criminal need to be control no medicine or treatment possible for the majority

 

Pierre-Hugues Boisvenu

Sénateur/Senator

[email protected]

b. 613-943-4030

c. 514-231-8016


 

So we keep the road on adopting those bills.

______________________



OUR RESPONSE:




Hello,

 

I'm really very sorry for your loss. I certainly agree with you that some criminals, whether their crime was sexual in nature or otherwise, need to be controlled. These are individuals for whom, unfortunately for us all, neither medicine nor any form of treatment will be useful. Such individuals need to be singled out and they need to be subjected to continual supervision. Individuals like these, like the monster that killed your daughter, is the exception and are, thankfully, very rare.

 

Labeling every individual who has committed a sexual offense as a 'sex offender', with all that such a label entails, does not make those individuals equal. Yes, the man that killed your daughter offended sexually. He was also a murderer and perhaps a psychopath. Do you believe then that all individuals who offend sexually are murderers and psychopaths?  I certainly hope that you do not. Why then would you argue that these individuals should be treated equally?

 

Here are the cases of two individuals who are/were on the sex offender registry. They, like the majority of individuals on the registry are not rapists and murderers. Do you believe that they should not have the opportunity to pay their debt to society and to be reintegrated into the community? Do you truly believe that any measures the government decides to take against 'sex offenders such as these are justifiable?


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/695732


 http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/11/oklahoma.teen.sex.offender/index.html?iref=allsearch


 

You said that you read our email in its entirety. I thank you for that honor. Did you also have an opportunity to look at our website and the research it provides? I think that you did not, for if you had, you would have found the evidence to be incontrovertible. Let's assume however, for the sake of argument, that you are correct and that the recidivism rate for individuals who have offended sexually is 25%. This infers then that 75% of these individuals pay their debt to society and never commit another crime. How then can you say that "those criminal need to be control no medicine or treatment possible for the majority"? No matter what you may believe the rate of recidivism to be, the majority of offenders never commit another crime.

 

Once again, I am so very sorry for your loss. What that man did to your daughter was horrible, but your anger- however justifiable it may be, does not justify the harm that Bill S-2 and Bill C-23b will do to the majority of former offenders who are now law-abiding, productive Canadian citizens.

 

Thank you for your time,

 

Steven Yoon


Canadians For A Just Society

 


 


 

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15 Comments

Reply John Trenholm
2:39 AM on September 13, 2010 
It's pretty obvious that politicians like this already have their minds made up and nothing anyone is going to say, or how much evidence their given, is going to ever change their minds. And these are the people whose job it is to decide on the laws of this country!!

Ridiculous!
Reply Derek Dakai
3:02 AM on September 14, 2010 
Great website! Very informative. Your facts are right, and I looked at some of the actual sources you liked to -the government should be listening to you. About time these people started making some *educated* decisions.

Why don't i see any other groups standing up, showing some real courage, and letting people know the truth??
Reply Susan Rhys
9:17 PM on October 28, 2010 
Great site. Very informative.

Politicians making uninformed decisions...NOT SURPRISING!
Reply Paula Osborne
6:00 PM on November 30, 2010 
Here's a convincing argument, written by a Canadian senator, that argues that providing pardons is GOOD for public safety

http://openparliament.ca/hansards/2276/264/only/

It's nice to see that there is still a few people in Parliament who can think rationally!
Reply Bob
3:55 PM on December 9, 2010 
Wow. It is obvious that the senator's position on this is totally motivated by "revenge" and to hell with any real statistics.

So much for the Senate being a place of "sober second thought".

You really should release his letter to the media. His letter really shows how this whole issue is being driven by emotions without regard for the facts.
Reply RedStar
10:42 PM on September 18, 2011 
I love your response to that moronic senator. In fact he is implicit to his own daughters death by helping the real danger get away by flooding the registry with non threats. We know that this one is not going to budge.

So the question is what is the game plan? How do we make sure we win and this senator looses?
Reply Joyce
12:45 PM on February 16, 2012 
@[RedStar]

Politicians like this will always get away with their lies as long as people believe it. This senator says and does what he wants because he knows that either, 1. people don't know any different, or, 2. people are too afraid to stand up and say anything different (after all it's not the first time the Conservative have stated that "if you're not with us, you're a friend of the criminals". Sadly, and shockingly, this works: opposition politicians say nothing, human rights groups and Canadian media who have been contacted about this issue, and the associated, blatant Conservative hypocrisy and lies, remain silent.

CFJS posts to every suitable comment board on the WEB, providing facts and links back to our site. We intend that, one day, the truth will triumph.
Reply Art
6:24 PM on May 2, 2015 
I got busted for looking at a naturist website and spent 2 month in jail and am now on the registry for 10 years. I lost my job and live savings to a lawyer who threw me under the bus when it came to trial time. Even the defence lawyers don't work for you if you are accused of a sex offence. In Canada you are presumed guilty until proven innocent, unfortunately I did not have enough money to purchase my innocence in a court of law, unless of course, maybe if I sold my home and gave it to a lawyer rendering myself homeless. In my sex offender class of 10 men only 1 had relapsed, a 20 year old who was 18 at the time of his first offence for porn.
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